How do we begin to imagine changing policing practices that are more gender sensitive? And are institutions like the police open to change or do they try to insulate themselves behind what is often called the "blue wall" a culture of camaraderie that seeks to protect officers from the consequences of their illegal or unethical action? Melisa Idris and Sharaad Kuttan speak to Yu Ren Chung, Deputy Executive, Director of Women's Aid Organisation.