ADNAN OKTAR: Our guest is from Ukraine is she not?
My dear one, she is safe here, that is nice. A war is going on in her country, things are a bit hectic there. So what is going on there?
PRESENTER: The events have spread to the cities as well. Conflicts are going on in different cities, Master.
ADNAN OKTAR: Well my brother, this is no joke. An intervention is needed there. They need to be reconciled. Right? What is the problem? Eventually things should be like they used to be. Why is there the need to provoke incidents? They should restore everything to what it used to be. Right? I mean there is no need to give things a new, different form.
PRESENTER: Yes, insha’Allah.
ADNAN OKTAR: Or else (unwanted) incidents would break out, God knows the truth.
PRESENTER: You’ve said this before Master. You’ve said that Putin wouldn’t allow such incidents. They have issued a warning, Master.
ADNAN OKTAR: If they attempt to make a move to defeat Putin, he would never accept it. There is no such thing as defeat in his mentality. He would take something like that to heart. He would resist it to the death. Just like it is with Al-Assad. Syria is dead; Syria is a corpse right now. There is only a skeleton left behind but because of his pride by supporting Al-Assad, Putin doesn’t give up on Syria. All because of his pride. It has been ruined. Syria has almost been wiped off the map. There is no such country to call Syria. But still he doesn’t give in. All because of his pride. I mean he takes being defeated to heart. That would be the same for Ukraine as well. He would never accept defeat. That is why solutions that would not hurt his pride should be taken as a basis. I mean national pride is an enormously strong feeling: Hurting one’s national pride would ruin people en masse.
