Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's Live Conversation on A9TV dated September 26th, 2014
- The British daily The Independent carried a headline saying they need Turkey against ISIL.
Adnan Oktar: All right, we recognize that need, but ISIL and the PKK (the communist separatist terror organization in Turkey) must be dealt with together. Terror is a single whole. If you set the PKK aside, that is treachery and means you are playing games. That is like recognizing half of ISIL, but not the other half. They are the same. Turkey should have nothing to do with such agreements unless ISIL and the PKK are considered as a single entity. ISIL and the PKK are one and the same (in the sense of terror). If you set the PKK to one side, that will give a very sinister and crazed impression. They must neutralize them all. However, we do not wish there to be bloodshed. Measures such as blockade can be imposed. It can be done with knowledge, reason and culture.
- Teacher, you said that if they start bombing ISIL, they will just attract more adherents. One published report has confirmed what you said. The numbers joining have risen.
Adnan Oktar: My brother, 95% of young Sunnis will join them. They regard it as an attack on Islam. They also see the way that all Europe protects the PKK. The bad intention is totally visible.
We will never believe that they have good intentions so long as they fail to consider ISIL and the PKK together.
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The state [Turkey] must eradicate the PKK before ISIL. If troops need to be sent, or if there needs to be an international intervention, the PKK is a thousand times worse than ISIL. It is much more ferocious. They need to start with the PKK. The terror of the PKK needs to be annihilated first. It is easier to deal with ISIL. I do not think it is logical for them to say let us deal with ISIL while the PKK is still around. Because ISIL has never killed any Turkish troops or police. The PKK has inflicted thousands of martyrs on us. It is no good for us to look to deal with an organization that has nothing to do with us while an organization that is so extreme and has carried out such slaughter is still in existence. The world would be amazed if we were to say we will send in troops by land and air and that these will help out. Let us take measures against the PKK first, then ISIL.
Do they think that the thousands of our troops and police killed by the PKK never happened? ISIL has never martyred a single Turkish soldier or police officer. We have no business with ISIL. Our enemy is the PKK. It is the PKK that is always carrying out terror actions against the Turkish people. Let us set all international forces in action against the PKK. Let there be an international coalition against the PKK. Let there be intensive activity aimed at eradicating the PKK. The international force being readied against ISIL should be directed against the PKK first. Shouldn’t it? The PKK’s supply lines should be cut. It should be blockaded. Let economic sanctions be enforced against it. I am not saying there should be violence and bloodshed. But an international coalition can easily bring the PKK to its knees. The PKK can be totally paralyzed by a powerful military blockade. If they say let the PKK remain but we must eliminate ISIL, they are clearly playing games with the Turkish nation. Why should the PKK’s existence needs to be protected? If it is to be eliminated, ISIL must be eliminated together with the PKK. If they say the PKK should remain, then there is trickery going on.
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If Europe eradicates PKK terror, we promise we will deal with ISIL. This is a promise in the name of God. They must deal with the PKK first. I promise that the day they finish off the PKK, I will finish off ISIL. Their cause and aim are unchanged. The PKK is the main threat in the region. They have been shedding the Turkish nation’s blood for 40 years. They have been a scourge for 40 years. Many people in Europe happily watched that happen. I warned those people. I said, ‘If you try to divide the Turkish nation, hell itself will unfold.’ And hell has begun. I told them to come to their senses. They say that 33 countries will join forces. A thousand countries can join forces if they like, they will still never halt the coming scourge. Only God can halt that scourge. It cannot be done by coalitions.
