Adnan Oktar: Franco Frattini [visitor]. Originally a state attorney and magistrate, Franco Frattini continued with his career as the Foreign Minister of Italy and Vice President and European Commissioner for Justice. Having been a minister in the cabinet for four terms, he served as the former Foreign Minister of Italy for two terms.
Adnan Oktar: Franco Frattini, welcome.
Franco Frattini: Good evening, good to see you
Adnan Oktar: Welcome
Franco Frattini: Thank you very much
Adnan Oktar: It’s an honor to have you here, welcome.
Franco Frattini: Thank you, it’s a great pleasure for me, too. Thank you very much.
Adnan Oktar: It’s a pleasure to have you here. I believe we’ll have a very good conversation together.
Franco Frattini: My pleasure, thanks for the invitation.
Adnan Oktar: Like everyone else, we can clearly see the importance of close collaboration with Europe for world peace and brotherhood in particular, for the establishment of a climate of peace if the fighting is to stop, and if no more women and children are to die.
Franco Frattini: Yes, you are absolutely right. Today more than ever the world is full of wars. In my opinion this is due to the lack of leadership and the lack of vision in many, many leaders in the world including European leaders. I am enthusiastically pro-European so I am very sad to say this. We have before us a Middle East which is exploding, a Mediterranean which is full of turbulence and, unfortunately, an Africa where the situation is deteriorating day after day. Unfortunately, so far Europe has not being playing as it should, as a global player, as a protagonist and promoter of peace and mutual understanding. Unfortunately, because we Europeans are still divided on some important issues of foreign policy.
Franco Frattini: The main problems, which I know that you pay great attention to, are to me how to avoid giving the impression to the Muslim world that there is a clash of civilizations and religions, which is not to me the case. On the contrary, we need international cooperation against any kind of extremism. There is no clash between religions, but there should be a confrontation between moderate and extremists. This is the confrontation.
Franco Frattini: We Europeans and Western countries have made many mistakes in the past. I’ve been visiting many countries in the Arab world, in the Mediterranean and in Africa, and I don’t want to be considered as an enemy of the Muslim world. But in practice many ordinary people living in the Middle East think that Western countries want to spread confusion. They consider that Western countries in general, not only America, want to impose our own models and our solutions, which is in my view not the case. Today we have to dismiss that opinion, and since you are a promoter of peace, frankly speaking [I admire your] messages. I know your opinions from your articles, and they represent the right way.
Adnan Oktar: Thank you. What you say is very true and vital. This is the most important problem facing the world. But we will find a solution to it together. Because intelligent people of good intentions, people filled with love, are always the leaders of the world. What they say is always valid. The power that created the world always provides this opportunity for them. The power of good people, people of peace and love are always predominant. Our friends in Italy have suggested we hold a meeting to discuss how we can preserve and strengthen world peace, brotherhood and love in the face of ruthless terror organizations such as ISIS, and how we can put an end to this evil. We are thinking of holding the first of these meetings symbolically in Italy. We would like to invite you.
Franco Frattini: Thank you very much. It would be a very interesting opportunity for me. I have been in Iraq a lot since the very beginning of the war in 2003, and I traveled a lot through the north of Iraq, from the city of Erbil to the city of Mosul, which is now in the hands of terrorists.
Adnan Oktar: Your being there in person at the heart of events is very important. Your having connections to events is very important. If the total power of Europe can be brought together under a single leader then world peace can easily be achieved. Europe needs to quickly coalesce around a single leader, and that leader needs to concentrate on love, peace and good intentions. You have already noted that.
Franco Frattini: Yes it is true. Sadly I am not so optimistic about the future concerning the leadership of Europe in dealing with this strategic situation, how to counter ISIS. Why I am saying this is because recently the European member states met at least twice to talk about these deaths and the horrible situation with children and women being raped and killed and men being tragically slaughtered. But what was the reaction? Every country will decide, will be free to decide how to support the legiti
