Adnan Oktar: Mr. Daniel. Mr. Daniel Pipes. His name is beautiful, it is a Prophet's name. The name of the Prophet Daniel (pbuh). Mr. Daniel Pipes. He is in the States, right?
Audience: Yes.
Adnan Oktar: Yes.. He responded to my writing. What does he say? [From Daniel Pipes' response:] Mr. Oktar and I agree on wishing to see peace in Syria. I also appreciate his compilation of passages about peace in the Bible and the Koran. Given the reality of two immoral, cruel, and brutal forces contending for power in Syria, one must think strategically, not piously. Mr Oktar's insistence on reducing the clash of forces in Syria to rights and wrongs has little utility when both sides are repugnant. We must think through what a victory by the Assad regime or by the rebels would mean for Syrians and the rest of the world; and then, I suggest, let's compare those scenarios with the prospect of the two sides continuing to decimate the other. I find that last option less awful than the others. For Mr. Oktar to persuade me otherwise, he needs to offer more than scriptural citations. Is Daniel not religious?
Audience: No, he is not.
Adnan Oktar: Well, that is the reason then. Yes.. The matter would end if believers ruled the world. It would end in a moment. There would be no problem with Israel, for example. There would be no problem in Palestine, there will be no problem with America. But with true believers, no radicals. Now here, Mr. Pipes' error is this: he is saying, "Given the reality of two immoral, cruel, and brutal forces…" Now there is some truth to this. I do not deny it. I am not saying the opposition are all virtuous and the other side immoral. There is immorality on both sides. And both sides are partly in the right. But both sides are in a dead-end. Both sides are on the wrong path. I do not support any side. He has misunderstood that. That is not the case. Either I could not explain or he did not understand. I know the opposition consists of radicals. One can see that from their language and methods and everything. I know the other side is also very cruel and brutal. I say the matter will be resolved with the system of the Mahdi, by right-thinking, sensible people coming together. What I say is that a rational leader, a loving leader, needs to be chosen to bring them all to the table on conditions of peace, love and friendship, to bring about agreement on the fine basis of science, art and democracy, to establish peace and improve the environment. I am not saying it will all be milk and honey if the opposition takes over. America has power, Turkey has power and Iran has power as well. They should choose a lenient, rational person, not a whole team. If you have a team then you get conflict. One person; a reasonable, loving person with no lust for worldly things. Reaching a fine agreement that everyone would be content with, under his arbitration. This is the whole matter.
[From Daniel Pipes' response:] Adnan Oktar [says:] "The AKP espouses democracy and human rights and love… It is wrong to mention the AKP in the same breath as them [referring to radical groups]. … if the AKP mentality were in charge in Damascus the place would have become one of milk and honey." As a lawful Islamist himself, Mr. Oktar naturally dislikes my lumping Turkey's Erdoğan in with and Iran's Khamenei, then calling them two versions of the same radical utopian movement. And while I do not doubt that the AKP in Damascus would do a far better job of governance than the Assads, I also have no doubt about it deploying a satellite Syrian state against the West.
Now, there is a perspective failure here. I am still saying the same thing. I am not saying the AKP would resolve the problem from the roots, I am saying it will be resolved with the system of the Mahdi, with Moshiach. But if the AKP were in charge in Damascus, in Syria, there would clearly be a more pacificatory, reconciliatory and mild air. A person who can comfortably be an addressee to the European people. Mr. Erdogan is someone one can talk to. He is a person one can get along with. He goes to Obama and Obama embraces him. They become friends. He is given a military welcome. If he thought he was abnormal, he would not have met with him obviously. That means he is an acceptable person; that means he is a person who can be easily addressed to; so he shows him that kindness and respect. That is what I am saying. But I am not saying all could be resolved with the AKP. I say all will be resolved with the system of the Mahdi.
[From Daniel Pipes' response:] Adnan Oktar [says:] "Allah commands in Torah to make peace between fighting sides" "a Jewish person … should be obeying the command of Allah". "You should speak as a Jew and as a believer in Allah"; He says that I am saying this to Daniel. "Almighty Allah says in the Torah that Mos
